March 12, 2007

Blue Jays at Reds 3/12

Lineups from C. Trent:

Jays, eh?
Clayton SS
Hill 2B
Overbay 1B
Glaus 3B
Zaun C
Thigpen DH
Griffin LF
Mottola RF
Duncan CF

Redlegs
Freel CF
Gonzalez SS
Phillips 2B
Dunn LF
Encarnacion 3B
Conine DH
Hatteberg 1B
Valentin C
Denorfia RF

He forgot to mention the starting pitchers, DOH!
Its Matt Belisle for the Reds and Gustavo Chacin for the Blue Birds.

125 comments to “Blue Jays at Reds 3/12”

  1. smartelf says:

    Personally I think Belisle could be our strongest candidate for the 5th spot in the rotation. The problem is that am not sure he can survive an entire season, he seems to develop shoulder or back problems every year, but I blame that on pitching him in long relief from the pen sporadically. I think set in a rotation he could be very good. I like Elizardo starting the year in AAA and getting the call later. He will be hungrier and meaner that way and more determned to stick around, because he’s gotten a taste of the big leagues with pretty decent results. We can use Saarloos as a long reliever until somebody goes down or struggles at which point he gets the next chance to start and show what he can do. So I am pulling for Belisle today. Paul Wilson I don’t know about… if you could screw his head onto a young body we might have something, but no matter how much of a competitor he is I don’t think he can be successful in the longhaul with a fast ball in the mid 80s. We have too many young guys with higher potential that should move ahead of him at this juncture. Let the Cardinals take him I don’t care. Would that really frighten anyone? Not me.

  2. Red Hot Mama says:

    I’d like to see Belisle do something special today, myself. I’d love for enough of the 5th-spot guys to do well that they put the pressure on Milton and Lohse.

  3. smartelf says:

    Also see trent is showing one bench spot undecided, with the others going to Castro, Conine, Hamilton and Valentin. He is suggesting Moeller needs to be considered because of Valentin’s pinch hitting role. I have to disagree. Bubba Crosby has showed me something this spring (even though I have listened to all the games)… he has speed, plays all 3 outfield spots… you figure Griffey is our gimpiest player and you facotr in that Freel is also a utility infielder and you almost have to have another outfielder. Denorfia has folded from the competition, and Crosby and Hamilton both show they deserve to be on the 25 man roster, IMO. Valentin can still pinch hit in the bottom of the 9th or the top of the 9th in a losing situation, even if we only have 2 listed catchers. I have to believe there are a plethora of bad hitting catchers avail. on the waiver wire at any point during the season. I don’t see how you can commit a roster spot to one. Of course Moeller is making it interesting by actually doing some hitting this spring, after hitting below the mendoza line in winter ball. Still, I wouldn’t expect him to bat much more than .200 this season wherever he winds up.

  4. smartelf says:

    And we aren’t talking about bellhorn much anymore, are we? he finally started showing his true colors. I told you he was a bum! :hehe:

  5. Red Hot Mama says:

    Javy’s a badass pinch hitter. But, as you mentioned, Crosby and Hamilton are both showing that they’ve got some offensive prowess as well. If they can take on some of the pinch hitting, then you don’t have to worry about using Javy so much. At least by my reckoning.

    True dat on Bellhorn.

  6. smartelf says:

    Don’t the Blue Jays have like double our payroll? Look at that weak-ass lineup. Their GM is a joke.

  7. Red Hot Mama says:

    Clayton at SS? That’s not Royce, is it?

  8. smartelf says:

    That’s exactly who he is… he goes from batting 8th for most of last year to now batting leadoff for a team sharing the division with the Yankees and Red Sox. If that’s their plan for the entire season its gonna be a LOOOONNNNG season indeed for Canadian baseball fans.

  9. smartelf says:

    Canadian National Anthem….nice!
    OH CANADA WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEE!

  10. Red Hot Mama says:

    They’d be better off with Anderson Machado.

  11. smartelf says:

    Maybe Kriv-dawg can work something out…

  12. Red Hot Mama says:

    We could take Overbay for him if he’s a righty. 😀

  13. smartelf says:

    Here we go… Matt belisle trying to “crack” the rotation…
    He is facing (My other car is a Rolls) Royce Clayton.

  14. smartelf says:

    Overbay is like their best hitter, so I doubt we can work that one. Denorfia makes the first out on a lazy fly ball.

  15. smartelf says:

    Oh yea they do have Vernon Wells.

  16. smartelf says:

    AGON catches a liner. 2 outs. here comes Overbay. Aren’t we glad he’s out of the NL Central? He abused the Reds as a member of the Brewers.

  17. smartelf says:

    Guess what RHM? They have little Ray Ray Olmedo trying to make the club. Sheeit, I’d start him over Clayton right now.

  18. smartelf says:

    Dumatrait, Medlock, Dickerson, Shearn, and some other nobody optioned down today.

    Overbay draws the walk.

  19. smartelf says:

    Belisle knocks down a rocket and makes the play to first. No score heading to the bottom of the 1st.

  20. smartelf says:

    Leading off for the Reds, Ryan Freel… facing Gustavo Chacin, the lefthander. Line drive basehit to CF!

  21. smartelf says:

    I give the Blue Jays two chances of winning their division this year: SLIM and NONE.

  22. Red Hot Mama says:

    You’re definitely right about Olmedo and Clayton. I’d take little Ray Ray in an heartbeat. I can’t imagine Clayton will last.

  23. smartelf says:

    Called strike 3 on AGON. I don’t like him in the #2 spot.

  24. smartelf says:

    Freel dives back nearly avoiding the pick off.

  25. smartelf says:

    2-2 on Phillips, he’s been fouling off pitches.

  26. smartelf says:

    Full count. Chopper to 3rd… SAFE ALL AROUND!

  27. Red Hot Mama says:

    “nearly” avoiding the pick off? Does that mean there are two outs?

    Yeah, Gonzalez in the #2 spot doesn’t make sense.

  28. smartelf says:

    Fielders choice, Freel beat the throw at 2B. Dunn now up. Line drive BASE HIT CF, Freel hustles in to score. 1-0 Reds! Dunn’s 6th RBI of the Spring.

  29. Zeldink says:

    That was a beautiful crack of the bat on Dunn’s hit. Nice to see him doing better at making contact in RBI situations.

  30. smartelf says:

    No I meant Chacin tried to pick Freel off of first base… he was leaning… and he got back in ahead of the tag.

    Fly out, Edwin.

    Conine now up.

  31. smartelf says:

    I heard the “crack” of the bat too… a beautiful sound.

  32. smartelf says:

    line out to 1B. Reds draw first blood, 1-0 after 1 inning.

  33. smartelf says:

    What’s Dunn batting now, like .650?

  34. Red Hot Mama says:

    To me, there’s something special about Dunn knocking in Freel. It’s like I know everything must be clicking when that happens. The world is as it should be.

  35. smartelf says:

    Denorfia makes the catch a couple steps short of the warning track. Thigpen coming up. THis is truly a ridiculous lineup the Blue Jays are featuring.

  36. smartelf says:

    Called Strike 3!

  37. smartelf says:

    Ground out to phillips. 2 easy innings for Matt Belisle in the books.

  38. smartelf says:

    The Fedora-wearing Giant Ice Cube is at-bat.

  39. smartelf says:

    Hatteberg strikes out. Valentin up.

  40. Zeldink says:

    I do wish Belisle were facing harder competition. But at least he’s getting through this lineup with ease.

    I understand why the Jays might not have brought many players with them. The two parks are quite far apart.

  41. smartelf says:

    LLM draws the walk. denorfia at the plate.

  42. smartelf says:

    Batting a buck-seventy-nine… his chances of making the roster fading fast.

  43. smartelf says:

    Groundball base hit thru the left side. Freel outta the game… Hopper now batting. We are hoping Freel is ok.

  44. smartelf says:

    Bouncer to the mound, 1-4-3 double play. End of 2, Reds leading 1-0.

  45. Red Hot Mama says:

    Hmmm…it’s early for Freel to be coming out. I’ll be interested to hear what’s up.

    Hey, remember [url=http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/16881755.htm]this guy[/url]?

  46. smartelf says:

    Maybe Freel needs an IV.

  47. smartelf says:

    Called strike 3 against Mottola. Belisle looking good.

  48. smartelf says:

    C Trent will be in the booth to chat with Steve shortly … he might shed some light on Freel’s early departure.

  49. smartelf says:

    Swinging strike 3 on a good offspeed pitch.

  50. smartelf says:

    chopper to SS, AGON throws out his conterpart… Belisle retires 7 in a row.